This thread was inappropriately censored by either @punkisdead@slrpnk.net or @mambabasa@slrpnk.net claiming:

“Reason: Reason: Literally the opposite of anti-work is “over employment” which OP is arguing for”

There is an English comprehension problem by the mod. Would someone whose first language is English please:

  1. notice that over employment is actually the problem that the thread identifies and seeks remedies for. Being forced into a full-time or nothing ultamatim is a very common problem that oppresses the anti-work community.
  2. undo the improper action

The mod’s action to suppress is actually a pro-work action, as it prevents discussion around solutions to over-employment.

  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    4 days ago

    Can you post a link or screenshot of the modlog to see the original text? Your link does not work for me.

    Personally, I find it frustrating that an instance that is either explicitly or implicitly supportive of anarchism uses the completely unaccountable moderation model from Reddit. I don’t want to start drama with specific users but this wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen some pretty questionable mod actions on this instance, which is disappointing, given our shared ethos. I get that we’re stuck with the tools that Lemmy provides us which are very limited but I think there has got to be a better way somehow. In my view, this system inevitably leads to abuse, especially on contentious topics.

    • punkisundead [they/them]@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      4 days ago

      I agree with what you say and can also admit that my moderation practices are not perfect, but just as much we have moderators that should act in good faith and be accountable for their actions, users should also try to act in good faith and in line with the communities goals. Of course the power difference is there and so I am.not saying this is a both sides issue where everyone has actually equal amounts of agency.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        4 days ago

        Well I think that’s the exact issue. I am a mod as well, and yet I don’t want this kind of power because I know we are all imperfect. Yet the need for online moderation remains, and to some extent, I need to moderate if I want certain communities to continue to exist. It is a conundrum. I don’t have any direct solutions to offer right now, so I think I need to do some reading on possible alternatives maybe. But I am posting this in the hopes that others may have ideas and to raise awareness so that when the time does come to adopt a better system, I hope there can be consensus around this.

        I also agree that having a more positive and good faith user base is important. But it’s even less clear how to achieve this. Traditionally it has been done mainly by bannings which I doubt is the best method. It’s something I’ve been thinking about a lot. The moderation issue is just one aspect, but I feel that online discourse in general is extremely hostile and it seems to be overflowing into offline society too.

        • punkisundead [they/them]@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          4 days ago

          I know that on reddit there was some kind of crowd sourced moderation of r/anarchism. I dont have any direct experience regarding this way of moderation, as I was never part of that way of doing things.

    • activistPnk@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
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      4 days ago
      original post text

      Progressive tax regimes are conducive to anti-work philosophy, right up until you take a year or more off.

      Having a progressive tax system means tax rate increases disproportionately with the more work you do. And that’s a good because working less is encouraged by a reduced avg tax rate.

      But what happens when you take a year (or 5 years) off? You live off savings that were taxed in higher brackets while earning zero. IOW, consider:

      • Bob works 6 years straight earning 50k/year.
      • Alice works 3 years earning 100k/year then takes 3 years off.

      They both had the same gross earnings per unit time but Alice gets screwed on taxes because of the progressive tax system. My pattern is comparable to Alice due to forced full-time gigs that refuse part-time. My refuge is to subject myself to being over-employed for a stretch then quitting for a stretch of bench time. The only remedies I see:

      1. Take a 1-year contract starting in June. Do not work the first ½ of the 1st year, and do not work the second ½ of the 2nd year.
      2. Form a corporation, work as independent and direct your own “false independent” 1-person company. Money builds in the company as you pay yourself the same amount whether you are working or not. (Some people put the company in Hong Kong because it accommodates this well and the company feeds the director gradually and persists well after retirement – or so I’m told)
      3. Work in a country that adjusts for income fluxuations by giving you a tax credit if your income drops substantially from one year to the next.

      I made up number 3. Does that exist anywhere?

      Any other techniques to hack around forced full-time scenarios? Or to deliberately fluxuate working hard and not working without the tax penalty?