I laugh at your decadent Western technology!
Reflexively thought this was the onion. Can someone explain yo me how this isn’t idiocy?
China’s a big market, and banning three major brands from being used means those brands will fight against Trump’s trade war so they can get access to the market again. There’s no way Intel, AMD, and Nvidia will be happy to lose all that money.
Will they really lose much money though? Chip makers (NVIDIA especially) have practically been able to sell everything they can produce since before the start of COVID, so I doubt they will lose a lot from this
The answer is yes, they will lose a lot of money.
The Chinese consumer market is larger than the US and EU markets, and is growing, not shrinking. On top of that the Chinese business market is growing and is growing extremely quickly. The backbone of either market in the 21st century is computerized goods.
This is also a sign that the multiple domestic architectures are good enough to act as drop in replacements for at least government work, so business and consumer uses aren’t too far behind.
I can’t read the article for it opens some 1x1 gif at loading, but I suspect they’d only need to write a long form proof of why they need to use exactly that foreign brand for their work etc, and probably if they also have the leverage to do so (so many get filtered out, maybe). That’s how it works in Russia for plenty of years after we proclaimed we’d replace imported goods with something we don’t even produce lol.
L!!! Mao
This reads like fake news. No publication date, no sources listed, very vague and self-contradictory on the details. How is no other news outlet corroborating this?
I’d take this one with a huge grain of salt.
Do they have x86 alternative? Or are consumers still allowed to buy x86 computers? Unclear in article if ban for “businesses” is ban for businesses that make computers using the chips/boards to sell to others.
Has arm gotten good enough for desktops?
They do. But the performance is pretty bad
Yes they have comparable CPUs from Zhaoxin, which is joint owned by VIA and Chinese government.
Russia also has Baikal.
Surprise surprise.
Apple uses Arm for their desktops, including the Mac Pro workstation. I don’t know of anything upgradable/customizable like x86 Desktops though.
I mean… They’re not exactly wrong for this, especially with Intel.
Sooo, all chips basically.
Except for the ones made by the Chinese government.
those fools forgot about lays 😎
Lays makes good chips. It’s too bad that they’re really only good for the data center market, since you can’t have just one.
Raspberry pies and MacBooks across the realm.
They started making their own a while back.
Edit:adding link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_Manufacturing_International_Corporation
No 3dfx? Shame
While I appreciate the joke, they’re technically nVidia now
in… creasing?
better than outcreasing i guess
This must mean that they’re getting cheaper in the West now, right? Right?!
Chinese rejection -> “Supply chain issues” -> Price goes up. Again.
I really hope this means we will see high end open source chips sooner rather than later. Maybe EU and China could team up on this. The current situation isn’t sustainable.
Maybe they will be investing towards RISC-V chips?
Woule be best case scenario for pretty much everyone except, well, all the companies currently in the space. And western global hegemony.
All empires will tumble
They already have.
Good. Pump that up. I want to be able to run my favorite open OS on open hardware.
Worth noting that just because a CPU uses the RISC-V instruction set does not make it open hardware; it just makes it possible for it to be open hardware, but it’s still up to the copyright holder to release the source files and design as open source.
Still, better than fully proprietary hardware.
In a small way, yes, in that the software ecosystem built around it would work on future open hardware, but the hardware could absolutely still be fully, 100% proprietary.
Fair, but it means devs will write software that can one day run on open hardware.
That’s true, but open source software is generally written in high level, portable languages that can be compiled to multiple CPU architectures without changing the code, so proprietary software is really what would have any problems running, and even then, there are x86 emulators like Box86/64 and FEX out there and can even work transparently using systemd-binfmt.
At the application level? Yes. At the OS / package level? It’s still a work in progress. And you need the latter to use the former.
That’s going to make things very difficult for them short-term. Medium-term too. Bets are still off on long-term.
They only need phones
