Debrid-link* + Stremio
*or any other debrid service (Real-Debrid shut down)
Can you elaborate or redirect to further investigate how this could be used?
Seems like this explain it pretty well, though Stremio has basically an app for every device, not only the firestick:
https://champagne.pages.dev/piracy-guides/firestick/#stremio--trakt
Also, I don’t remember doing the “Trakt” part when setting up, just used Debrid and Torrentio to connect it to Stremio.
Wait what, when did they shut down?
I’m still using them afik
Just looked into it a bit more, turns out they’re still working, but:
I’m not that knowledgeable on the whole topic but here’s how I understand what’s happened incase no one else responds
RD received a formal notice from the National Federation of Film Publishers (probably law suit) so RD has to comply and strengthen anti piracy measures.
That started with the deactivation of the API endpoint /instantavailability which is what 3rd party app add ons like torrentio and Fen Lite/Cocoscrapers used to scrape streamable cached links (I think)
The notice also included a blocking of torrents and purge of the cache of specific media, we don’t know the full extent of this yet but it seems many links are already being blocked
The reason torrentio is working with RD again is because the torrentio dev built a workaround so that it will still use RD to pull links we just aren’t able to see if they are cached or not, I do not know if this is a permanent fix but as far as I can tell, things will continually get worse for RD, not better.
yarrr matey
Anyone who still forks money to billionaires for entertainment might be stupid.
I agree with the sentiment but if a large majority would stop using these services and pirating wouldn’t it result in either less entertainment or more crackdowns?
Nope. It resulted in the original Netflix, aka a service that actually worked and had everything we wanted for a time. Direct reaction to mass piracy and actually reduced it by 90℅ iirc.
You also can’t crack down on non centralized services and the more decentralized nodes, the harder the job becomes and the more expensive. At some point it will become uneconomic to go after pirates.
And, yes there will be massively less movies & shows which is very good. We live in a fresh hell where billionaires push out half baked shit every week and the only way to tell them is to not buy it.
Good points, thanks for taking the time to explain your point. I strongly agree with the on about the quantity of slop churned out nowadays.
The slop is an unfortunate consequence of the streaming model.
Because there is so much content on streaming and it’s so readily accessible, watching a movie isn’t an “event” anymore in the way it was when DVD or VHS was the only option. And when you pair this with second-screen devices (phones) then it all adds up to people treating movies as background entertainment while they scroll their phone or do something else.
And because of that, the way shows and movies are produced has changed, too. The reason everything seems like homogenous cookie-cutter crap is because it is. In fact Netflix have specifically been asking producers to dumb content down so viewers can still understand it even when they are only paying half attention.
Of course, there are still talented people out there making great movies and shows, but they are increasingly drowned in a sea of copy-paste mediocrity.
And I do feel sorry for all those perhaps equally talented but less senior writers, directors, editors and artists who might never get to produce a movie they are truly proud of, because they’ve been captured by the streaming content factory that demands of them only a constant treadmill of dumbed-down slop, cheap and quick and instantly forgettable - and that people will only ever half-watch.
This is indeed a crying shame. I do not understand the concept of watching a movie while scrolling on my phone but maybe that’s just because I grew up with VHS and normal TV programing.
Again, thanks for the detailed reply, it was very interesting!
I found a VHS player at a second hand shop and got into buying and watching VHS before the pandemic and it was actually relaxing. Even with DVD/Blu ray I can’t get as immersed as I was with watching VHS. I would know that at night I was going to watch D.A.R.Y.L and just kick back and not get off the couch. It was a whole thing…power surge fried my player and haven’t found another one yet
Sad to hear about your player, sounds like you had good thing going. There’s something different about the experience, I agree with you.
They really should have just built their own Netflix but profits get split amongst the copyright holders. Every single one of their analysts was warning them what would have happened if they couldn’t solve this real world game theory problem.
The current model has its own issues. The amount of series that are cancelled after the first or second season is ludicrous. Also, and I’m not sure if it’s related to streaming or the constant writer’s strikes, but series have reduced from 16-26 episodes per season from the height of the piracy-era to 6-10 nowadays.
If the reduction in piracy led to this deterioration in quality, then I can’t imagine it could get any worse if everyone started pirating again.
Personally, I reckon it will incentivise the numbskulls in charge that no one is going to pay for 48 separate streaming services and they’ll be forced to adapt (likely via packaging/merging streaming services together).
They just need to start bundling with other things
Sonarr & Radarr
Dont forget jellyfin and on mobile ruddarr to control them
This is why pirating isn’t an option to most people, you need like 4 apps and a dedicated pc running as a server to match the one click ease of streaming services, it’s ok for me but I get why my parents or less tech savvy people would be unable to figure it out
Yes this is true today but dont forget that linux is just generally slow. As each app is a docker there is one day the possibility of someone rolling all 4 or 5 apps into a preconfigured single docker or app that can be a one click install, easy to use. It just hasnt happened yet due to time/lack of effort and so on. Open source is slow like that. Its a voluntary thing so these things always take years.
PopcornTime. Problem solved.
Exactly. Movie? Enter name, wait a minute, watch. Series? Enter name, wait a while longer, watch.
My understanding is that not everything is available that way though. I had a friend say they tried to get star trek the motion picture. And while it was there. A month later he still only had half of it. Thats a pretty big name movie to be so hard to get.
The problems I have are for very specific categories. A lot of the reality tv isn’t available because they are meant to be watched during the time period they air. The more popular ones are still there, jersey shore for example. Documentaries can be hit or miss, especially the ones that were released for free already on a random site or YouTube. You can always download those directly from the web page though.
Sometimes I have trouble with very old seasons of shows. Usually its easier to find an entire show torrent, but sonarr can’t handle multi-season downloads so you have to do it manually.
I have more trouble with things that should be automated requiring manaual intervention than the things not being available at all.
Depends. I never have had anything that’s not available. Except one older series that wasn’t available anywhere, not even streaming legally. And for dubbed shit it can be more complicated. But i rarely consume that. I use usenet btw with only two indexers. Could add more and even torrents too, that might even make it better. But i would already be fine with just one indexer at all.
I’ve heard of usenet. Never understood how they can exist legally. Or how people pay them legally.
It’s just as old as the internet itself. Primary reason was communication. A gargantuan federated forum. The binary-part was just there but not that extensively used. Now it’s the other way round (sadly). Communication is down, binaries are up. As to the legality: It’s federated, worldwide. Some providers do take DMCAs, but (as with the rest of the net) it doesn’t do much. Because first most pir8-content is obfuscated and pwd-protected. And second, the moment something was taken down, someone else re-ups it again :-) Benefits to torrent and debrid and all: Retention. So a thing from 10yrs back you can still get with absolute maximum speed your line can do (and your provider gives you ofc). Fuck seeders and upload-ratio and co. Just get it as fast as anything could be. I usually download with ca. 250mb/s. 100 parallel connections. Only some group’s FTP can beat this. But they’re not for the public.
As to legally paying: It’s just a service that gives you access to something. like debrid. You can have usenet access just to communicate with people or download linux-distros or anything else legal. Also, even in my very restricted country, downloading is legal. Uploading is not.
So it’s federated like lemmy? Interesting. So you pay an instance I assume. But does that get you access to all other instances like lemmy? That seems odd, but possible.
not exactly like lemmy. It’s more like ONE base of content they all share. But it’s not like instance A only gives you interracial gay midget-porn, and instance B only farming-simulators and C only linux-apps :) But yes, you pay one of the providers and usually have it all. There’s a chart somewhere to which one is backed by whom, and hence the best retention you could get. AFAIK Eweka is one of the root-providers (I use them and they have regularly cheap deals). For automated easy downloads you’d also need an indexer. There are free ones but they aren’t offering API-acccess. You can get those very cheap to moderatly cheap. I pay like 20 bucks a year for two indexers (where one would really totally suffice). Kinda like the same you’d need for torrent too. A site to get your torrent from.
Show the Pain Harold
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Ahoy mate
I have Netflix, Prime & Hulu. I’m ready to drop all 3 but my wife enjoys some of their trash. I’m tolerating it, for now.
Exactly why I run Kodi on my firetv
Sure, but let’s not pretend like it’s just a one click like streaming legally. My wife and kid would have zero clue how to go about it. But I agree, every time I wanna watch something in particular it’s never on any of the networks, or in one of the ones I don’t have.
Also you can’t get everything through torrents, only popular stuff or current stuff, anything else you might be lucky to get one seeder or two
If you setup streamio it’s literally as easy as using Netflix. And it has everything, it’s extremely rare that i find anything that i can’t watch
what’s streamio
A streaming media player that uses a plugin system to greatly customize its capabilities: https://www.stremio.com/
Here’s a guide.
Except it defaults to something like iMDB in how it lists series and shows and their reviews… And not a single way to watch them. You then have to do quite some digging to find the right addons, and not all links are equally valid…
I understand they avoid liability this way but damn they make it difficult to actually watch something, and even if you manage to get it to listen to Torrrent trackers they don’t really seed back and that makes me feel like scum and that comes from someone who watches films for free.
Another guy in this thread linked an amazing resource for learning:
My wife and kids have a clue - they just tell me to download it. The little ones will learn their piracy lessons on coffee shop wifi, not at our home.
Personally Ive got a pirate streaming service which has a mobile app and desktop website to stream anything from Netflix, apple, Disney, Hulu, prime, etc pretty much every service out there and new episodes pop up within a day. It’s no different than opening up the Netflix app. It’s pretty damn easy and convenient. Not perfect as sometimes it lags and you need to watch in lower quality but so much more convenient having everything in one spot than needing to search 5 different apps for something to watch.
Can you share it please ?
can you please dm me so that I can avoid it.
My wife and kid love watching stuff on Plex. We might even watch some Dog Man tonight if we have time, then maybe I’ll get to continue The Expanse with my wife after the kid goes to bed.
I set some stuff up automatically, but still do a bunch more manually because it’s easy enough. Once I’ve set it up, the user experience and the A/V quality are excellent.
I’ve even started putting a bunch of FLAC albums into Plex to use it for my music streaming. We Get YouTube music for free but it can get obnoxious to actually use throughout the day.
If you are tech savy you can get almost whatever you want with a one click, just like legal streaming, and eve with more quality
If you aren’t you can hook up a plex server from a friend or use things like magisTv or similar
That reminds me, I love the hannya/jolly roger fusion on Majima’s flag in the upcoming Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii! (Which I would not be pirating even if it weren’t Denuvo)
Would you like to see a film? It’s $60 to enter the movie theater. A chair to sit in is $10. You wanted to see the film? You need the glasses to unscramble the screen image. $40. Audio? That’s for due paying subscribers $4.99/mo. You want to exit the theater? $120. In case of fire? Cleaning up your ashes generates a $200 fee.
All you did with this post was show everyone you’re an idiot, and you not realising that before posting just increases the level of stupidity. And we’re on lemmy, a place where almost everyone is more tech literate than most and generally less dumb too, yet here you are. It’s a miracle how you managed to get here and figure out instances etc.
Some people have less free time than you do and the convenience is worth it to them.
Are you young and have no assets? Because managing risk is an adult thing to do. I used to pirate, but decided the risks outweigh the rewards for me at this time. I might again someday, but not today.
We’re back to cable. Buy the channel packages (streaming services) and now you have ads and pay-per-view.
Hmm, pay $20 a month apiece for 20 different shitty streaming services that use ads, or $6/month for Usenet access and $1/month for indexer access, and get every movie and TV show for nothing extra…
Choices, choices.
What’s the easiest/best way to start with UseNet? I’ve wanted to give it a try for the longest time - but it just feels like such a daunting task to try and figure out…
It’s not complicated. The Usenet provider gives you access to Usenet, and the indexer lets you search it for whatever you want. You then download it with a Usenet client. You can do it manually, much the same way as you download a torrent from any site. if you’ve downloaded a torrent before, you would be able to manage Usenet with no issues at all.
Or, if you’re willing to spend a few hours setting up the Servarr apps on an old computer like I did, you can automate the whole thing. I recommend this option, because you do it once and then you have a seamless way to fetch files from torrent and Usenet both without ever doing anything more than typing in the name of the show/movie. The Servarr apps search for, download, and import media into my library so that I can stream them to all my devices using Jellyfin (or Plex, if you like corpo apps). They even fetch proper subtitles for everything, and I also have it set up so after I’ve watched an episode, it’s deleted to make room for something else. It’s as easy as Netflix, at a fraction of the cost.
No “Dogma”. No one has ever streamed Dogma.
