• Lena@gregtech.eu
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    2 days ago

    Do tell how something like Zen or Ladybird has a better chance at doing so. It would be better if instead of this fragmentation the Zen and Ladybird would work in a Firefox fork.

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      Ladybird has some serious backing and employed developers working on their engine and has been worked on for years (Ladybird started life as the SerenityOS browser)

      And even after all that time and money, it’s still not even ready for general use. Their roadmap has them having a public release ready in 2028 iirc

      And fragmentation? Really? LMAO there needs to be some competition in browser engines, if there was we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with.

      There are only 2 modern, open source and fully working engines. Chromium and FF, that’s not fragmentation, that’s a duopoly

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        2 days ago

        That’s like calling Linux on the server a monopoly. It’s open source, with many distros (forks). Anyone can fork the engine.

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          Distros are not kernel forks. Distros simply take the kernel, and bundle it with many utilities for the end-user. It is the equivalent of taking a puzzle set and assembling the pieces together. Sure, many distros maintain their own programs (such as a package manager), but it is an intirely different thing to maintain pacman than to maintain the freaking kernel.

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          Anyone can fork the engine.

          Even the Linux kernel is not as much of a beast that a browser engine is, I’ve seen estimates that a dedicated small team could build a new modern Linux kernel from scratch and generally usable in about 2-3 years

          A browser engine takes years more, again, ladybird’s engine is built from scratch, and it’s currently in year 3 targeting an alpha release in 2026 or Year 4. With it projected to be generally usable in 2028 a full 6 years later.

          And there are actually a couple different independent kernels, so no it’s not a monopoly