EDIT: I should clarify, by Jill Stein, I mean what her party’s official platform and policies are, as reflected by her statements in interviews

  • finderscult@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    They’d win. Assuming they invest in messaging and campaigning, instead of whatever the fuck Harris spent a billion on.

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    1 month ago

    Don’t know much about Stein, but most of what I’ve heard from Sanders sounds like the kind of sanity that the asylum riots to resist. The USA has no Left.

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    If there is proof that she is a Russian asset, why did the Democrats not oppose here and use legal measures against it?

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          I don’t know. But democrats spent the past 8 years accusing trump of being a russian asset, then chose not to bring it up during either impeachment, nor did biden’s justice department didn’t charge him on that front.

          In practice they seem to think that delaying a weapons shipment, or not returning documents to the presidential library were stronger cases to pursue. There’s surely a reason for that.

          Either the claims about russia are false, or the evidence is not actionable. I can’t think of another reasonable explanation for their actions.

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            It’s lack of direct evidence. Trump operates like a mafia boss. No paper trail, always use euphemisms for direct action, use intermediaries for voice communication. That’s why everyone around him got caught and prosecuted, but he didn’t. The entire case would be hearsay interpretations. Federal guidelines wouldn’t let a prosecutor take that to trial. Usually in that case they go for intimidation to get a confession, which doesn’t work on a megalomaniac narcissist.

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    they win.

    in 2016 jill stein campaigned on canceling student debt. that was a major part of her platform. in 2020, joe biden included student debt cancelation in his platform, and he won.

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    You may as well ask, what would happen if the Democratic party were a different party?

    The DNC pulled out all the stops to keep Sanders from the general election, twice. They can absolutely win elections, when they want to block any movement toward the left.

    I recommend listening to this: Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed

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    Why would that persuade someone living in a swing state that sometimes vote republican and sometimes democrat to vote D?

    I think you over estimate how many hard lefts don’t bother voting at all because both parties are too similar.

    Going more left will cost more votes than they would gain.

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      I think you underestimate how many don’t vote because neither party offers them something worth voting for. A huge percentage of US Americans don’t vote, yet polling for progressive policies always polls better.

      By going progressive you aren’t convincing the rare swing voter, but the massive number of disaffected voters. These aren’t far-left, but disenfranchised from the entire system.

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    Every four years Jill Stein emerges from her burrow. If she sees her shadow, it will be four more years of fascism.

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      And Trump would have won this time around, even if Jill Stein wouldn’t have ran. That’s how big his margin was. Dude, he won electoral AND popular vote.

      You all need to take a look at yourselves and realize why you lost so bad. It sure as fuck wasn’t because of Jill Stein. lol

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    Do not compare Bernie Sanders to Jill Stein. Jill Stein is an anti-vaxxer and a Russian spy.