Not too familiar with the fediverse or anything, kinda got violently plunged here cause the internet is setting itself on fire, so please be kind lol, I’m a “normie” here.

As the title says: is there any good usable alternatives to the mentioned platforms? If possible something close or on par with their features? There doesn’t seem to be anything of the sort as far as I know, not counting mastodon or pixelfed as those aren’t in the same field to the mentioned platforms. Anything’s appreciated, thx.

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    I’m not actually sure honestly. I’d like a Pinterest alternative too.

    Pixelfed or Friendica for art pages might be the closest thing to deviantart (as best I’m aware at least). Pixelfed is modeled after instagram, friendica is modeled after facebook.

    The network of microblogging sites like Mastodon or miskey (twitter-like) is the biggest fediverse platform, after that is probably reddit like platforms (lemmy, kbin, piefed) and pixelfed.

    Most other platforms like peertube (YouTube alternative), loops, friendica, and probably a much of others, are still on the smaller side and still feel much different from their corporate counterparts due to the size difference. They haven’t really hit a “critical mass” yet in my opinion. They’re still cool and worth trying out if you’re interested though :)

    The fediverse is still growing, but I’m not sure there are direct couterparts for those specific user experiences yet.

    Regardless, welcome! I’m glad you’re here :)

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      17 hours ago

      This is the second time in a week I heard someone say that there is no federated Pinterest alternative.

      As someone who hasn’t ever really used Pinterest: What would be the features you would be looking for? And what is ist that would define Pinterest for you?

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        I use it to save images as reference that still links back to the original content. That way I can make boards of reference or inspiration that contains links to the source for more detail or ideas, without having to save an image and then save a link and then keep them together somehow.

        And if you just bookmark stuff you can’t pull it all up and look at it together as like a reference board.

        The federated aspect would probably just be to enable decentralization while still allowing as many people as possible to contribute to the total image pool and organize them, which would teach the platform what images how to organize them so other people can find them.

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        Hmmm, as simply as I can put it: it’s kinda like an image search engine (one that, believe it or not: actually gives you what your looking for, crazy I know), you type whatever your looking for, a bunch of stuff relating to that pops up, you pin and organise that stuff in your profiles boards and groupings or download them locally, and it adapts to you and gives you more relevant stuff that your interested in, super handy for references, trying to quickly find images, and ideas in general, that’s what it’s made for in the first place so it’s pretty popular among creatives for a reason!

        I’m not an expert at all but, I’m kinda shocked something like that hasn’t ever been thought of for the fediverse, isn’t it’s whole thing like, everything can talk with everything? Wouldn’t a pinterest alternative be rather straight forward then? Just have the service crawl all of the fediverse for public images, and show them to users looking for them (I don’t think you’d need an insanely massive server or anything to pull that off, the service just links to everything and doesn’t technically store those images itself unless you click download or something), kinda how pinterest itself works I think so, I guess it’s just nobody here cares enough about that to bother with it, not enough artists/creatives around I’m presuming, bummer…

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          On other reason this was never tried is, that people in the fediverse react very allergic to sth that crawls through it and makes it searchable. People who build stuff like that will get bullied until they destroy it again

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          I guess it’s just nobody here cares enough about that to bother with it, not enough artists/creatives around I’m presuming, bummer…

          This last sentence is wild. People who don’t write software think it’s so easy, why can’t someone just whip it up?

          The lack of artists is totally the reason, and not that building up an entire federated service isn’t easy.

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            Aaaaand there it is, this is exactly why normal people aren’t switching to these platforms, dude: not all of us are technical geeks, we have lives and things going on outside of this stuff, we don’t view everything in the same lens as you do (shocker, I know), not all of us are gonna worship what you worship, a lot of you are so goddamn hostile and then wonder why people refuse to leave social media, get real…

            Again, not an expert here, do I need to put that in bold letters for you not to immediately be passive aggressive on first sight? I just got here dude, back off.

            Also you guys constantly make random projects and forks off of stuff all the damn time, and their not small tiny little projects either from looking at them, from my perspective it literally is just about there being no interest, stop justifying laziness, nothing will ever get done with that logic.

            My bad for bothering with your niche insulated platforms, will be a lot more hesitant with that next time, enjoy constantly scaring new people off and never knowing why I guess.

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            I mean it also does just appeal to a very different demographic than the fediverse has been built by.

            Reddit/lemmy is a favored format for technical folks and twitter/Mastodon is very general purpose (facebook is more so, but it’s not really a many-to-many network)

            Pinterest and DeviantArt are worthwhile pretty much exclusively to arts folks (which is also just a narrow demographic for something as niche as the fediverse), and the fediverse is pretty oriented towards technical folks, as that’s who built it. You also see that pattern in linux, the development of which has significantly more technical resources than design, with the notable exception of GNOME (not to say it’s objectively good or right for everyone, just that they balance their resources differently)

            Like a solid half of the fediverse is just technical open source nerds. Who I love, mind you, but it isn’t exactly the category of people likely to value pinterest, or DeviantArt.

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      Thanks for the welcome! Appreciate it stranger!

      That really sucks, but I guess that’s just how it is these days, thanks for the suggestions anyways. I occasionally hear about friendica, but there’s like, nothing for it outside of its website and years old posts mentioning it, kinda seems dead and desolate looking at it from the outside, only pixelfed sorta seems alive and kicking out of the two.

      I’ll share some of my initial ramblings, experiences, complaints, and opinions on here incase you want that, if not then my bad, sorry lol:

      Spoiler

      Tbh most of the fediverse still doesn’t seem to have reached a meaningful “critical mass” from my POV, mastodon is as close as it’s gonna get it seems, and even there it’s nowhere near as active as even the smallest of the mainstream social medias, also nobody on the fediverse seems to care about anything but politics and tech, that’s literally the most major con for me, those are the only 2 dominating topics on these platforms, can’t escape it, it’s everywhere, jesus lol, everything else is completely sidelined or straight up just not a topic because of how few people are around. Not “normie” or anything non-political/techy friendly at all it seems, nothing I’m interested in or need is active or cared about on any of these fediverse platforms, everything’s kinda dead and desolate outside of the main 2 topics, bummer. God I miss the old internet man, everything suuuuuucks now, wtf happened…

      I’m really hoping things get better here because my god we badly need alternatives to the big platforms, there’s literally nothing outside of them anymore, I wouldn’t be here if I wasn’t forced to, again sorta got forcefully plunged here whether this place was ready or not, but unless fediverse stuff starts really pushing advertising and actually catering to the normal person or something, anything, then I really can’t see this whole thing going anywhere beyond a niche secret geeky political club.

      All the major problems I’m seeing here at a first glance that would prevent a normal person from ever trying these things out, simply stems from there being just not enough people, thus not many different people with different experiences and interests to talk to, thus not enough different public topics and communities, thus not enough engagement and activity, thus not enough speedy development or interest in developing more alternatives to stuff, thus not enough feedback, and thus: an echo chamber of just 2 things and not much else, and apparently everyone here takes pride in that and makes it their whole identity, lot of hostile politics obsessed people here on lemmy especially, not been a fun experience browsing around, so yeah, no clue if we’ll ever have any real competition to social media besides bluesky I guess, am probably gonna get dogpiled for saying all that but, just being honest here with my initial experiences: it’s not great, getting some cult vibes from some of the communities and people here, and those seem to be the majority, not the minority, so very difficult to get past them.

      If It wasn’t clear, I don’t care whatsoever about politics, most normal people don’t and never will, i just wanna live man, already got enough issues on my plates as it is, 1 or 2 topics aren’t my whole identity, don’t need that shit shoved in my face 24/7 everywhere I go and guilt tripped/pressured into all that nonsense if I post in any vaguely populated community (posted a question about social media on a questions community and immediately got swarmed with exclusively political responses, just one single guy commented something that wasn’t political and that’s it, none of it even answered my question, it’s a complete echo chamber man, wtf am I supposed to engage with on here? 💀), it’s legitimately so annoying and frustrating, no wonder why there’s not that many people on here if the main content and audience are that. Definitely won’t post much on here if that’s what I should expect, even reddit as awful as it can be is much better in this regard then lemmy, never had that sort of experience on there even once, just wish they weren’t being assholes right now and banning a bunch of people for no reason or explanations, otherwise the people and content on reddit is just better then lemmy in every way possible, and feels way more welcoming then my initial experiences with lemmy (mastodon is a little friendlier, but waaaay harder to find and talk to anyone on it). There’s more to life then screaming at each other guys, don’t be shocked if this whole place stagnates because you keep scaring people away for not 100% being like you smh.

      Again don’t get me wrong, you guys are almost onto something with this project, and if it succeeds then I legitimately think the internet will be a much better place, just need to remember that non technical and political people also exist and should not be treated as second class citizens on here, y’all kinda need those folks or your gonna be forever niche and unviable and nothings gonna change, I seriously hope things get better on here, cause everything sucks right now, online, irl, literally everywhere all at once with no serious alternatives to anything, I yearn for the past so badly 😔

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      10 hours ago

      I’m still confused how they are going to use the AP protocol on top if whatever they’re doing right now. I don’t follow them closely but I’m cautiously excited on what they’ll do tbf

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    18 hours ago

    Tumblr will probably join fediverse soon, if the announcement is correct. A lot of people are asking about Pinterest alternative in fediverse, but I never saw one. Btw, for anyone looking at a Flickr alternative, I feel like they should look into https://vernissage.photos/ .

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    16 hours ago

    I use are.na as a Pinterest alternative. It’s not exactly the same - the vibe is a lot artier over there - but I still use it as a visual pin board.