Does anyone have this issue were firefox becomes slow if left open for a long time. In my case after a couple of weeks rendering becomes slow and when I use youtube for example if is laggy, just trying to change volume taka few second to show the volume bar. It also happens to my laptop at work. I have around 30 tabs open.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Check the RAM usage of each tab. My Firefox is constantly open at work, albeit with anywhere from 1-10 tabs, and it never gets slow. Only time I restart it is when Firefox updates.

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        9 days ago

        I’ve had Debian VMs run for long periods of time without me touching them. They normally would have high uptime unless it automatically reboots to apply a kernel update. The key is these are virtualized servers. You should absolutely avoid running to long without a reboot. The longer you wait the greater the chance of something breaking on the next boot. There is also the issue of memory fragmentation but that’s not really an issue these days.

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          I just have docker containers serving up some self-hostable service for myself.

          I don’t think I’ve seen or heard of issues not rebooting for too long recently. Aside from not getting security updates or bug fixes, what would be some problems that could happen if a system has been running for too long?

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            9 days ago

            It might not come back up after power loss.

            Also you do want security updates. It is a bad idea to not install them.

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              Could you elaborate on it not coming back up after a power loss? Assuming these services can get restarted after booting without the need for a user login, why and how would a previous long uptime lead to a possible failure of these services to be spun back up? I apologize if these questions sound dumb and have obvious answers, but I genuinely do not know, and it’s why I’m asking.

              And I’m not in any way trying to say I don’t want security updates. I’m asking that aside from security updates and bug fixes, are there any downsides to a long uptime? Please treat the question as one of curiosity.

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                It can happen because of simple things such as a hardware failure or because the kernel was removed 3 weeks prior. Its unlikely but it always will come at the worse time.

                Also rebooting after any update makes sure that all services have been restarted and are using the newest libraries.

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                  I’m sorry but I fail to see how these problems would be tied to having a long uptime (note the inline code block, as I mean the output of that command instead of uptime in an SLA, which is typically described as high or low instead of long or short). I have yet to find mentions where long uptime leads to higher chance of hardware failures as of recent. If some critical library or the kernel was removed some weeks prior to a reboot, I don’t think long or short uptimes would change your encounter of these issues.

                  And security patches are good, I agree. But there are instances where you don’t need it, eg in an airtight infrastructure, meant just for internal users, of which has no access to the Internet. You fall back to more traditional approaches to security in such cases.

                  As far as whether a service is properly restarted due to library updates, in a containerized environment, you wouldn’t have issues with library version mismatches, or missing libraries, or any sort of failure to restart due to dependencies getting changed without human attention (note that you can automate container updates, but you are then putting trust into whoever is publishing that container).

                  I’m not sure if it’s a lack of understanding of what my question is asking, or some other reason, but if you would please take the time to carefully read my questions and answer more appropriately and with clarity, that would be much appreciated.

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      9 days ago

      Lol, cause we’re all lazy gits.

      Cobbler’s kids have the worst shoes. I’m the cobbler, and reboot when things start acting up.

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      Firefox can automatically discard tabs when available memory gets too short. You need to configure it to do that though and probably disable the 10min minimum open time too if you’re very short on memory.

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      8 days ago

      FFS, his leak is probably in an extension.

      Installing more extensions that might also leak is not a real solution, no matter what they do.

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    9 days ago

    Only the part with youtube. Don’t know if they are pulling some tricks on uBlock users, but about 10 tabs of youtube can get nasty, even with a somewhat recent workstation.

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    Most software in general has hard to detect issues after several weeks of uptime. Its something that’s fundamentally hard to test and fix. Its a big reason why “did you turn it off and on again” is such universal advice.

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      Even if the software was perfect, virtually all desktop RAM isn’t ECC equipped, so you potentially have even the hardware corrupting the state and requiring restarting because of that.

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    Dawg I had like ~35 tabs open and hadn’t restarted my PC in over three weeks. Fucking Firefox was sucking back 80 gigs of RAM. 80 fucking gigs.

    On the bright side all the tabs were still loaded when I clicked through them.

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      I’ve seen poorly made websites taking gigabytes of RAM before. It’s not firefox’ fault they do that.

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        True that, I just thought it was crazy. I had recently upgraded to 96 gigs of RAM and I just never imagined a browser would actually suck up that much.

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          If you had 80GB worth of websites that did something actually useful with it, you’d want Firefox to use it all.

          I usually have dozens of tabs loaded due to usage and I want Firefox to keep all of them into memory so that I can switch between them quicker.

          Though I do also want Firefox to shed load by unloading some of them whe I need memory for something else. There just simply isn’t a mechanism in Linux to do that AFAIK; Firefox will happily keep all of its tabs loaded all the way until OOM eventhough it could shed most of them with little impact on user experience. There isn’t a way for the kernel to ask applications to shed memory load on their own and I think there should be.
          macOS has such a mechanism and Firefox uses it but it didn’t have much effect IME, so it might have been bugged. That was a good while ago that I tested it though.

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    Try using a tab suspend extension, something like ‘auto tab discard’. Firefox has one built-in, but it’s not aggressive enough.

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    Close everything and start fresh

    Your productivity shouldn’t rely on keeping one piece of software running for long periods of time.

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    Yes it happens. As others have said: just restart.

    What might not be as clear: when you restart, if it doesn’t just come up and offer to restore your session, you can go to History and Restore Previous Session. This reopens all your tabs (actually, they won’t fully reload until you view them).

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    If it’s related to the thread you posted then try Nightly?

    That’s only in Nightly right now, unfortunately; it won’t make it out to Release until v134.

    Also, can I ask why you’d leave your browser open for weeks? Just curious of the use case. The thread mentions having 5700-7000 open tabs, and I can’t fathom why someone would do that. It’s not like the websites disappear if you close the tab. Nothing to do with the problem though, you don’t have to answer.

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      Also, can I ask why you’d leave your browser open for weeks?

      This just begs the question, Why do you not leave it open?

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        Maybe because the software is designed to make that very practical and smooth. You also might point to hardware limitations, should you have a machine that doesn’t have a lot of RAM, or perhaps you might point to simplicity, and that you don’t want to have a cluttered taskbar.

        But it’s kind of ironic that you would ask why not leave software open on a post where the problem was specifically mentioned as one that is solved by closing the software.

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          So perhaps another anecdote is in order. I currently running three instances of Firefox (different profiles) on a low-end Celeron laptop. I don’t usually shut them except sometimes by mistake. What I do do is close tabs, if only for simplicity’s sake (because idle tabs are unloaded from memory anyway). I’m experiencing no sluggishness issues.

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        To conserve resources / power? Like when I’m done using an app, I close it. When I’m done reading a website or using online banking, I close it. I don’t leave my email, games or music open after I’m doing using them either. I actually turn off / sleep my entire device when I’m done using it, but that’s not what my curiosity is about.

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    I had the same problem recently. Especially the youtube UI became very unresponsive and would take several seconds to respond. I have 96G ram…

    I downloaded ESR instead. So far so good.