On P2P payments from their FAQ: “While the payment appears to be directly between wallets, technically the operation is intermediated by the payment service provider which will typically be legally required to identify the recipient of the funds before allowing the transaction to complete.”

How about, no? How about me paying €50 to my friend for fixing my bike doesn’t need to be intermediated, KYCed, and blocked if they don’t approve of it or know who the recipient is? How about it’s none of the government’s business how I split the bill at dinner with friends? This level of surveillance is madness, especially coming from an app that touts “privacy” as a feature.

GNU Taler is a trojan horse to enable CBDC adoption. They are the friendly face to an absolutely terrifying level of government control in our lives funded by the same government that tries every year to implement chat control. Imagine your least favourite political party gaining power. Now imagine they can see and control every transaction you make. No thanks.

  • kbal@fedia.io
    1·
    6 months ago

    GNU Taler is not your enemy. It may not solve every problem you’d like it to, but its adoption by the masses would be a vast improvement in privacy compared to the current state of commerce in every country where it has the slightest chance of happening any time soon.

      • EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
        0·
        6 months ago

        The suggestions like this also scare me in that it might require you to carry a smartphone all the time for things as basic as payment.

        • poVoq@slrpnk.net
          1·
          6 months ago

          This is totally unrelated to GNU Taler though, and if it comes to that you will be happy to have GNU Taler as an privacy preserving option.

  • GravitySpoiled@lemmy.mlEnglish
    01·
    6 months ago

    Your first example is tax fraud if you hide it

    Edit: it looks like you edited your post to state the guy repairing your bike is “your friend”.

    Noone is going to go after him if he just fixes your bike. But if he fixes the bike of his 1000 friends each month, they will go after him if he didn’t declare it.

    • Zak@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 months ago

      That may technically be true, but it’s currently very normalized. Do we actually want to denormalize it? Should the government know about every trivial transaction?

    • FaceDeer@fedia.io
      1·
      6 months ago

      Which jurisdiction are you referring to? GNU Taler isn’t specific to any particular country or currency.