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  • Never said that, never meant that.

    When I said “inner child” I meant his own capability of leaving his adult responsibilities behind for a while in favor of doing things that society as a whole deems childish. Indulging in certain hobbies, acting a certain way. I can’t find the right English word right now. In German we might call it being “unbeschwert”, so maybe “unburdened”.

    I was specifically replying to the passage that he should have spent those 13 years in age difference growing as a person to an extent that he shouldn’t have much in common with a 16-year old anymore. And to that I ask: why? Must every adult be a joyless, mindless worker drone who can’t enjoy the things they enjoyed when they were 16? I’m happy to discuss if the relationship OP described might be problematic because of a power dynamic and that’s been done to death in this thread. But saying he isn’t allowed to feel connected to someone younger than him based on shared interests or a need to escape his adult responsibilities for a while feels bitter and judgemental.

    None of this has anything to do with me labeling anyone as an actual child.

    Edit: Maybe a picture says more than a thousand words so let me link to my favorite XKCD: https://xkcd.com/150/


  • From my personal experience this “ought to be” is the problem. Once you get your first job, everyone expects you to drop everything that you’re passionate about and start behaving like an adult. That can be overwhelming and I wouldn’t judge anyone for wanting to keep that cozy feeling of being young for a bit longer. And as long as all important responsibilities still get taken care of, why not let adults be as childish as they want, whenever they want?


  • Oh, don’t get me wrong. It is a bit weird and concerning. But weird and concerning alone are not enough to stop something that’s legal and at least for now seems to work pretty well. And like you said, not much they can do about it. The best course of action is to deal with it, be as accepting and supportive as they can and be prepared to help if things do go wrong. Everything else will make things worse.


  • So let me summarize:

    • He is happy
    • She is happy
    • He is very open about it and introduced her to you
    • She is everything you could wish for (except her age)
    • Her parents are aware that she’s dating someone older and are fine with it
    • It’s legal
    • He doesn’t have a history of abusive relationships
    • They have at least some shared interests

    And yet you still can’t give this relationship a chance based on the vague feeling that you “just think it’s inappropriate”?

    While I agree that an age gap this big - especially if one is only 16 - is a red flag and should be watched carefully, you’re against it for all the wrong reasons. As long as she is safe and they are both happy, give them a chance. Be prepared to step in if - and only if - there are signs of either of them being taken advantage of. Otherwise, support them the same way you would support them if she was ten years older. As long as everything stays healthy and legal, nothing you could say would make them reconsider their relationship. Criticism will only lead to him not telling you about his life anymore. To you not noticing if something does go wrong. To him not feeling comfortable breaking up with her when they are not happy anymore. To her not being comfortable breaking up with him when they are not happy anymore.

    Approach this carefully and with empathy. Everything else will alienate you from your son and might drive him to bad decisions.



  • They broke up amicably because she wanted marriage and kids, he didn’t.

    I think that’s the exact point why he now dates someone much younger than him. Not that she wouldn’t want those things specifically but she is his escape from being an adult. I’ve been there, broke up a relationship when I was 30 for the exact same reasons (no, I didn’t date a teenager afterwards). Being that age is scary, especially these days. You have less and less time for your hobbies, you’re expected to deal with a job, bills, taxes, bureaucracy, family planning, and the future in general. At the same time, even if you’re successful in your job, you have to worry if you’ll ever reach your parents’ standard of living because real estate has become incredibly expensive.

    In that phase of life, some people will cling to every opportunity to preserve their inner child. A silly hobby, quirky clothing… or a person around whom you can be immature. For me, the solution was to spend my vacations with a couple of friends who feel the same and just make our own safe space where we can be as immature as we want for a week. For your son, it was getting a girlfriend who is much younger than him. She won’t mind if he acts like a highschooler because she is one herself. He can hang out with her and her friends to stay in that less complicated world for just a few years longer.

    He needs that. And he needs you to accept that side of him, even if you don’t accept his relationship. Make sure that when he comes home, it’s okay for him to spend a day on the couch playing video games, watch Disney movies and forget about all his responsibilities.


  • What? That really shouldn’t be the point for anyone to worry about.

    The important thing is to make sure she’s safe. As long as that is guaranteed, everything else is his choice and his responsibility. He is an adult, he is allowed to decide for himself if he cares about what society as a whole and his parents in particular think about him.

    Shaming him and pressuring him into leaving her will only make him stick to her even tighter, just to spite everyone else. And that might actually go wrong when the relationship eventually breaks apart and he can’t accept that because he doesn’t have anyone else left.


  • Well, have you tried asking him why he picked her? Note my choice of words here. Specifically don’t ask him why he didn’t pick someone else but what he likes about her. My personal guesses (!) are: they share an interest in jazz music, they had a good time together at the festival and she doesn’t expect him to act like society imagines “an adult”: she lets him make up for something he missed when he was younger.

    About her being hurt: he’s your son, you know him better than we do. Do you think he’s the kind of guy who would do that? If not, look out for signs that it might actually be happening instead of relying on your expectations. Stay in contact with her parents. At the same time, make sure she’s comfortable talking to you. That way you will know if something happens. But please don’t accuse either of them of something that isn’t actually happening.


  • From your post, I can’t quite decide what worries you most about this relationship… I’ve written and rewritten this comment multiple times because of that.

    The usual concern with such an age gap would be that he might take advantage of her and her lack of experience. That’s a valid concern that should be addressed. But It doesn’t seem to be what’s bothering you.

    With you starting your post by telling us about his ex who is completely irrelevant to this story and your relationship with her, then later list off how great your son is and that “it’s not like he’s lacking options”… I can’t shake the feeling that your problem is more with him having a partner that could be considered “below his own status”. It feels like you would react just the same if he dated someone closer to his age but not as successful or good-looking. And to that I must say, that’s none of your business. Let your son love whoever he wants to love. Let him make his own decisions and when it comes to it, his own mistakes. They obviously share some interests and he’s old enough to decide if she’s “good enough” for him.