I have seen many comments saying that lemmy.world sucks, and sh.itjust.works is good. I have seen that lemmy.world apparently has a very poor reputation among other instances. Why? After a quick look, sh.itjust.works doesn’t look much different to me. Can anyone explain?

Edit: many good replies. the conclusion I’m drawing is that for my purposes it doesn’t really matter. I appreciate everyone who responded

  • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
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    13 days ago

    Fwiw, LW seems ready to defederate from Threads at a moment’s notice (post), but atm it doesn’t matter since Threads isn’t federating with Lemmy anyway.

    Though it’s still an excellent point to wonder why they haven’t done it preemptively, like pretty much every other instance I’ve heard of (even lemm.ee’s [blocked instance list[(https://lemm.ee/instances) that is shockingly short has that one). Perhaps bc the decision to defederate from any instance, and especially that one, has generated such negative feedback (as the post linked above mentions), they are hesitant to do anything at all, especially again while it does not matter right now.

    • RedAggroBest@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      The way they approached Threads is part of why I stuck with LW. Instance location doesn’t matter much to me and why would I go with an option that is more willing to take choice out of my hands?

      Corporate or not, it should be my decision to interact with it. Unless it’s Nazis or some shit similar, I can block rather than rely on defederation and being told what to do.

      • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Well, I hear that but at the same time the counterargument seems fairly strong. As I understand it (not being a mod of any communities here myself) apparently the mod tools suck pretty bad, especially across instance barriers. And in particular it is reportedly lacking standard filtering capabilities so that if Threads were ever federated with, the sheer VOLUME of content would quickly overwhelm the ability of the mods to keep up. Hence, if Threads were to join the Threadiverse, then Lemmy as it currently is now would have no chance but would cease to exist, almost instantly. And we would become an unmoderated playground.

        I have no idea how Threads itself handles moderation, but at a guess, it wouldn’t (fully?) apply if people with Threads accounts were to comment on posts in Lemmy communities?

        So Threads really is a special circumstance, not at all like federating with hexbear or exploding heads etc.

        Even so, the admins do seem to be listening to the feedback of the users, rather than forcing that choice upon everyone, yeah:-).

        • woelkchen@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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          1 day ago

          the counterargument seems fairly strong.

          Lemmy isn’t compatible with Threads.

          so that if Threads were ever federated with, the sheer VOLUME of content would quickly overwhelm the ability of the mods to keep up.

          No. Threads has no communities, Threads cannot post to Lemmy communities. That’s fearmongering.

          if Threads were to join the Threadiverse

          Threads is already part of the Fediverse but on a per-account basis. It’s compatible with Mastodon and other Twitter-likes that use ActivityPub. Lemmy can’t read Threads posts, just as Lemmy can’t read random Mastodon posts, only the ones Mastodon users explicitly posted into Lemmy communities.