I have seen many comments saying that lemmy.world sucks, and sh.itjust.works is good. I have seen that lemmy.world apparently has a very poor reputation among other instances. Why? After a quick look, sh.itjust.works doesn’t look much different to me. Can anyone explain?

Edit: many good replies. the conclusion I’m drawing is that for my purposes it doesn’t really matter. I appreciate everyone who responded

  • Alphane Moon@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    I agree with you. IMO, it’s not that different.

    The big difference is between the tankie LARPer instances (lemmygrad, hexbear, parts of lemmy.ml) and the rest of the major instances.

    • zante@slrpnk.net
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      14 days ago

      As a socialist, you will understand I’m sure that constant being slurred with “tANkiE” from mostly .world users is very tiring

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        14 days ago

        There’s a difference between being a socialist, and blindly defending authoritarian regimes that claim they are socialist. Those instances earned their reputation for a reason.

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          14 days ago

          Make it a stickie, because barely anyone observes this definition.

          I am regularly slurred as Russian bot or a tANkiE when calling for peace and de-escalation of war.

          Daily .

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            14 days ago

            Have you stopped to consider that maybe you’re just an asshole?

            No, seriously, you’re whining about being called a tankie when… like dude, you’re a tankie. Half your comments are just bringing up how EU/UK support for Ukraine’s defense is a frivolous waste or similar. I doubt you think of yourself like this but to an outside observer you’re deeply toxic.

            • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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              13 days ago

              I doubt you think of yourself like this but to an outside observer you’re deeply toxic.

              From my position warmongering is deeply toxic.

              No matter how much organizing you do with other anarchists offline, to the .world crowd if you’re to the left of Joe Biden you’re a tankie.

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                9 days ago

                From my position, the jedi are evil!

                Man, they weren’t kidding about those federation issues. Just now got the notification here. Listen, you’re not wrong that people are reactionaries, this is the internet. Many people need to either figure out they aren’t welcome, or figure out a less confrontational way to present their ideas (me included, often).

                But all that said: there’s a difference between “I think anarchists are largely naive at best” and “This person is a tankie”. I can (and frequently do) disagree with all manner of left-slash political opinions, and I’m perfectly happy to coexist with them since they often have perfectly good ideas that come from a position I disagree with, but can accept.

                What I can’t abide, and what the above asshole espouses, is the brainless regurgitation of pro-russian propaganda. Ideas like “enabling the AFU’s continued defense of Ukraine is unconscionable and the guilt for all the innocent deaths lay at the feet of NATO for enabling this war to continue” are what makes someone a tankie, and are what that person keeps saying. That’s the shit they get pushback on (and which they fail to understand the negative reactions to), because they’re too self-centered to realize that Ukranians aren’t some innocent babes in the wood lead astray by a wolf. They are a people who have fought and died, for hundreds of years, to secure their fucking right to choose the fates they make for themselves. The choice to lay down one’s life for a cause they believe in, that they dictate, is one every culture holds absolutely sacred. How many martyred anarchists are there, who’s names live on in the creed of those who come after them? I’m not even an anarchist and I can think of dozens.

                A situation has arisen which has lead so, so many to make that choice, and while every life lost here is a tragedy I grieve over every day, infantilizing the people who’s lives are freely given? The people who’s lives are being stolen from them? The ones who’ve been found with their hands still bound, dumped in mass graves? The busses full of stolen children, who will never be seen again?

                THAT is what makes this jackass a fucking tankie.

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                  23 hours ago

                  From my position, the jedi are evil!

                  statist cops who routinely perform extrajudicial executions, have largely unchecked mind control powers and freedom to recruit child slaves from pod racing without any sort of oversight

                  Next you’ll probably need me to explain why the imperium of man is evil

                  You seem very emotionally invested in war with Russia, I don’t think opposing that makes people tankies, nor do I see how opposition to war infantalizes the people getting killed by it.

                  Ukranians aren’t a monolith and there were plenty of Ukranians getting killed by their government prior to '22.

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                    22 hours ago

                    Of everything you could choose to criticize the jedi for, of all the many things you could choose, Thought Crimes and Qui-Gon emancipating Anikan is what you go with? I mean, christ, I just said that to point out how cliché your response was, I did not think you’d actually roll with the idea I was comparing you to Darth Fucking Vader.

                    Honestly there’s not much more for me to say to this. Between that and you revealing that you think the imperium is evil (which… uhm… buddy you’ve missed the entire joke) I think you’ve made your grasp of political nuance pretty explicit. I won’t even try to figure out what you mean by saying ukranians aren’t a monolith, or that there have been ukranians dying in wars prior to 2022. Obviously this is true? You do know about the annexation of crimea, right? Or… essentially the entire history of Ukraine? Or every other country? And the active genocide Russia is carrying out on the Ukranian people, you know about that?

                    Sheesh. Opposition to war with russia does not infantalize Ukrainians, nor does it make one a tankie. War is bad. If I had a magic wand, I’d end the war in a second. I’ve been to wars, I know exactly how awful they really are. But, opposing war with russia because you think Ukraine are the aggressors, or that any violence is to be opposed even self defence, or because one is deluded enough to think that ukranians are somehow being tricked into fighting this war by evil nato arms companies, is what makes someone a tankie. The Ukrainian people have had a war forced on them by russia, and none of them wanted this.