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I can’t believe buying chickens actually saved me money, I just did it because I wanted chickens. I expected to pay more per egg (considering food and litter) because I don’t have economies of scale like the large producers do.
Eventually it becomes cheaper to raise chickens.
Should have gotten the small caged eggs.
Can’t. Eggs have to be cage free in CO since January 1st. The law passed 2 years ago, so of course egg companies are acting like they couldn’t possibly have prepared for it to take effect. The plus side (for me and like 5 other people) is that this makes the vegan egg alternative seem WAY more reasonably priced these days.
Its such a too-little too-late maneuver. If closed coops hadn’t been these giant petri dishes for disease over the last thirty years, maybe we wouldn’t have mutated a strain of H5N1 that was so virulent. Now we’re switching to free range just in time for our sickened flocks to infect the wild migratory fowl that pass through.
Only thing to do is… checks latest EO… defund all public health and safety measures against infection and transmission.
Eggs have to be cage free in CO since January 1st.
I can buy an 18 pack of those exact same eggs here in Central Wyoming for 8.87. That’s right, I get 6 more of the exact same eggs for $2 less.
Denver is stupid.
Yes, but then you have to live in central Wyoming, which is a trade off that’s only worth it for some people
I was not being serious.
Laughs in vegan
I hope Just Egg gains some new customers from all this. Really good stuff!
How much it costs?
I wanna say five or six bucks for a bottle that probably makes about the same as a dozen eggs, might be a little more now tho
And if you are an independent egg vendor you have to submit a 1099 form with your taxes. Coincidence?
Shame about that flu thing innit
Phew, are you OK over there? For comparison in Germany it’s 2€ for 10 eggs, or 2,40€ for cage free. Eggs from the farmer start at 3,50€. In my area anyway.
They’re fighting the bird flu
Jein. It’s not as bad as OP makes it sound, and I’ve never seen a 10 let alone 12 organic eggs in Germany for 2€
What you’re looking at here are expensive organic (bio) eggs, likely from a very expensive bio-store. Typical prices for eggs in Denver for organic eggs are 7.49 for 12 or .62¢ a egg at a store comparable to REWE.
Here at my REWE in Köln organic eggs are 3.39 for 10 or .33 an egg. So they are actually only twice the price, which is due to the killing of millions of chickens because of bird flue.
Is the bottom image with or without sales tax? Usually in the US prices are shown without it (as it depends on state, county, etc), whereas in most EU countries and I’m assuming Germany as well, prices for consumer goods are generally shown with taxes included
Everywhere I’ve lived, most groceries aren’t taxed, so what’s showing would be the final price.
Things that might be taxed are things like pre-prepared food or soda.
In Australia they’re not available at all. This is at Woolworths supermarket:
they culled because of the bird flu too?
It appears to be multifactorial:
- Culling last year due to AI
- High demand during the festive season
- Ban on caged eggs in 2036
Due to AI?
Avian Influenza I think
Yup
I know the prez said he’d drop the price of groceries on day one, but he got a little sidetracked by his side project of destroying the country. But give him a few more weeks to get that done and then I’m sure he’s get right back to the groceries.
Oh no, grocery prices are this term’s infrastructure week.
Groceries, the term he popularized that no one was using until he started saying it.
Time to start raising chickens.
Bird flu is still an issue
Nobody is mentioning this when talking about raising fowl. I’ve had chickens and the primary reason I’m not doing that now is because I don’t want primary contact with h5n1. I don’t even know if testing is available and if it is imagine it isn’t cheap. Even if I made a fully enclosed pen so wild birds can’t get to the food or water I’d still worry. And I want my animals to free roam.
Already started. We have a coop about ready, my wife has experience, we’re semi-rural, about set. Only thing, I want them free range and I’m not sure about the wildlife.
Haven’t seen a fox in ages. The local coyotes don’t come in here, yet, but a massive new development is pushing them out of their comfort zone. Plenty of raptors it seems. But hell, I can afford everything but a ton of fencing, of any kind.
What to do? Just run out with the 20-gauge and start blasting at 3AM when shit goes sideways?!
I need to post on the chicken comm.
My primary plan is to hatch extra and expect some losses. Wildlife needs to eat, too, and I can’t fault it for doing so, even if it’s inconvenient for me.
However I’ll also employ roosters, which are annoying but do great protecting the flock (even sacrificing themselves to save their ladies). If you can’t/won’t have roosters for whatever reason, a couple geese will help as well, or you can add them to the roostered flock for extra protection, I believe.
Personally, the only way I’d ever shoot something going after my flock would be if it’s a threat to the enclosed run/coop where they stay at night and in bad weather. Or if they were habitual about raiding my flock.
But chickens should be in a coop at night so as long as you have one critters can’t get into, you probably won’t have too many losses.
Peacocks can chase off predators.
FYI eggs from backyard chickens have a higher level of lead in them. On account of cities being polluted with leaded gasoline for decades. Fun times.
Unleaded gas became standard in the 70s. If you live in a dense city that was built 40+ years ago and eat eggs daily and are a small child, you may reach the non-recomended intake amount, barely.
Most people with a backyard big enough for chickens don’t live in the urban areas that had such dense lead exposure anyways
A few thoughts on that. Unleaded started in 1975. I’d like to know when it reached 50% of the vehicles but googling doesn’t give me that. Assuming 20 years for the entire fleet to turn over, that would give 1985 for 50%. I think you want 25% or less leaded cars until you don’t have too much lead in the air, so that goes to about 1990. The pollution didn’t end immediately at the city limits, so the burbs that would be built on the next mile or so would still be on polluted land. So I think that gets you to houses built 1995+ to even 2000+ to get to uncontaminated land (depending on how fast your city was growing).
I know around here the houses with decent backyards were built in the 70s to 80s. In the 90s the yards were getting small, and nowadays they are almost nonexistent. So the best suburbs for chickens are 80s and earlier. Which is also the contaminated land.
Last thought is that they keep saying that there is no safe level of lead exposure.
I was thinking Nixon banned it in 1970, but that was paint apparently, it appears the partial bans started in 85 on gas, and complete ban was done under Clinton in 96. I don’t know anyone with chickens on a lot smaller than a acre, but maybe that’s just a regional thing around me. I can’t see how you could have free range chickens on a quarter acre lot, they’d just fly over privacy fences and piss off neighbors Id assume. But maybe three are more people doing that than I knew
It’s less about gas and more about cars. They mandated new cars run on unleaded gas in 1975. While it was technically possible to convert a leaded car to run on unleaded gas, it wasn’t done in any substantial numbers. So we had to wait for leaded cars to wear out and be replaced with new cars that ran on unleaded. That’s why I said 20 years for the car fleet to turn over.
Backyard chickens depends a lot on local laws, most cities ban them just because. But if a city allows them, afaik you don’t need much room.
And about nobody is raising chickens in an urban environment.
We have a lot of backyard chicken farms in Vancouver.
Suburbs don’t really count.
Its just packaged chicken cum. No big deal.
Uhh that is only if they are fertilized. It is really just a packaged chicken period.
I was aware the USA has some educational troubles, but either you are trolling or joking or these troubles are much more serious than I anticipated.
Yeah dude
They’re $8.75 for 12 at Aldi in CA. Or if you’re a real saver, 60 for under $45!
Jesus that’s a huge difference in the Aldi price nearest me (about an hour by car).
Yeah, you know shit is fucked when eggs are over $8/dozen at Aldi!
8.75/12 = $0.73 per egg.
45/60 = $0.75 per egg.Incredible! With bulk purchasing, I can pay an extra $0.02 per egg.
Closing in on a buck an egg.
Impossible, Orange Julius was fixing the prices. What is the hold up?
It’s Hussein Obama eating all them eggs! Thanks Obama!
Must be the DEI chickens.
Couldn’t have been, because that pompous dick Gaston eats the entire daily supply every morning to get jacked.
He should sign another eggsecutive order
Weird: this is Safeway, Canada
That’s still high, assuming cad, but much better. It’s around 6-8 ‘freedom’ dollars down here is southern America.
This is from a Zehrs, it’s Loblaws so not even remotely the cheapest place in town
With exchange, that pack of 30 organic eggs is ~11.90 USD. I usually just buy no name.
This needs more upvotes. There’s no way these should cost more than meat, whatever the excuse.
There isn’t a massive bovine flu killing huge swathes of flocks…
Lets be clear. Its still bird flu. Not bovine flu. Regardless of whether cattle are getting it.
If a person gets swine flu it doesnt suddenly become human flu.
Things have names and this distinction matters.
Sure but the point is that there isn’t a disease sweeping through cattle herds killing most of them etc.
Which is happening to flocks of birds, including poultry.
Oh there is a flu sweeping through cattle herds. Its bird flu. Its killing some cattle, but the vast majority recover. But, one result of the bird flu, california’s milk production is down 9 percent. That is an absolutely staggering number.
It’s almost like the inhumane, cramped, living conditions we permit a lot of our agriculture industry to have for animals is biting us in the ass.
And before dipshits come in about how that doesn’t apply to cage free chickens, etc. Of course that shit still affects overall product prices. One of the businesses along the line between the farm with the chickens and your grocery store aisle is going to raise the price anyway to gouge a little more profit from the system when they have the chance.
As a dairy farmer, i understand i may be somewhat biased on the evaluation of living conditions for my animals. I try very hard to make sure my animals are well cared for and have the space they need. And there is still room for improvement. Compared to a few decades ago, we are doing pretty good in my opinion.
But in the case of poultry, i do have opinions that do align a little bit more with you. While poultry overcrowding and handling practices did play a role in exacerbating the bird flu problem, they were not the sole main driving factor that let this disease go rampant. It helped, but it isnt the whole story.
To see why, all we have to do is look at export markets and their rules.
There is a vaccine for bird flu for poultry. We’ve had it for years. Poultry farmers do not use it. Because using it limits the countries you can export your product to.
https://www.newsweek.com/why-us-not-vaccinating-poultry-against-bird-flu-2010511
Long story short, it is more economically feasible for producers to nuke entire flocks and start from scratch, (chickens reproduce very quickly), than it is to spend money on vaccination and limit your export market.
This creates constant hot zones that spread to wild populations and migratory birds. This is why seals are dropping dead like flies on the Argentinean coast. I believe the mortality rate is over 90 percent. There are no large scale poultry farms in the falkland islands. Bird flu is so ingrained in migratory bird populations at this point that its crossing over and killing random species that are not confined or used for humans.
Cats that eat infected birds develope encephalopathy and have a massive mortality rate. Its how we first tied bird flu to cattle in the first place. Dairy farm cats are what turned us on to the bird vector. There is also no current vaccine for cattle, or many other animals. Yet.
There will continue to be huge issues with bird flu until we develope good policies to vaccinate all animals in cafo sites and let common sense and science take the lead instead of bad policy and greed. And it may be too late to be honest.
After being on the front lines from day one of the bird flu epidemic in cattle, when we didnt even know what was happening, and seeing how badly the government and officials have handled it, it is an absolute miracle that covid was only as bad as it was.
Those are fancyish eggs too. I paid $3.69 yesterday for store brand and they are often on sale for a little less. Our avian flu situation isn’t as bad yet though so it can still go up.
Yeah, these are specialty farm eggs, cage free, and brown. They’re also stacked in with the organic eggs. They probably command a markup without the price increases from bird flu. This is also probably some trendier grocery store OP is shopping at.
Our “fancy” grocery store has a dozen cage free large brown eggs for $5.49, so either this is a local issue in Denver or OP is posting some BS engagement bait.
(For readers, with the USD-CAD conversion they’re closer to $5)
What the heck happened to American eggs?
What the heck happened to American eggs?
Denver is a special place, further its one city in a VERY large country and they don’t cost anywhere NEAR that much in most places. I’m in the middle of Wyoming and 18 large eggs (Dozen and a half) cost $6.72. I can buy 18 Brown Cage Free Organic eggs (just like OPs) for 8.87.
Even those Canadian eggs are relatively expensive to what I’m used to:
These are Euro prices.
Price at Tesco in the UK:
Even cheaper at Aldi:
Your monopoly money buys more eggs than our real money?! Now I’ve seen everything!
That’s still an obscene price.
Voila is a delivery service, not sure why they decided to pick that out of literally everywhere in the country
They are $3.60 a dozen at Costco ($2.50 USD) last time I was there
Meanwhile my local Costco in AZ had no eggs at all 4 days ago.
Hey Internet stranger, can I buy some of your eggs?
quick, before the orange clown adds tariffs 😆
That’s expensive. I live out in the boonies where things cost more and my local store is $4 a dozen.
