• oce 🐆@jlai.lu
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    4 months ago

    Do some people here not realize that if we start allowing this kind of extra-judiciary assassinations, it’s not only going to happen to who you think are the bad guys? Next one could be an opposition party leader or the spokesperson of a minority defense non-profit.

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      What moral highground are you trying to hold onto?

      Here in America we have normalized supporting a genocide. We normalized slavery and torture in our prisons. We normalized extrajudicial killings of anyone we pin with the label “terrorist”.

      Normalizing extrajudicial killings of our oligarchs is a step in the right direction and helps to fix all the other problems. We need more heroes.

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      Or maybe even schools. How will we cope when they start going after our kids? Going after women’s healthcare providers? God, when will this end…

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      We’ve allowed it for decades. There’s just handwringing now that it happened to a shitbag ceo instead of happening to an unarmed black man at the hands of the police.

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      Do some people here not realize that if we start allowing this kind of extra-judiciary assassinations

      The fact that he’s wanted for murder and is the subject of an active manhunt seems to suggest that extrajudicial assassinations are not, in fact, allowed. In fact, I might be so bold as to suggest that the justice department generally frowns on them.

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      To be fair, noone allowed it, it just kind of happened. And this is just kind of something that happens after things reach a tipping point in society, it’s happened throughout our entire history in one form or another and will be happening all the way into the year 50 million assuming we make it that long

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      Did they say it was the guy? I thought they were saying he was staying with other people at the hostel and this was someone they wanted to talk to, presumably one of the roommates, but idfk

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      Won’t the nearest black person do? Oh yeah, the high definition cameras.

      I bet the boys in blue long for the good old days…

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      4 months ago

      Photos of this guy are with a bookbag with black straps. The guy with the bookbag with white straps in the shooting video has a completely different jacket and thin eyebrows vs this guys big bushy ones.

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      Thisnis the assumption we should all go on, for two reaeons: (1) We don’t want to enable the potential persecution or reprisals for an innocent person, and (2) Who actually wants them to catch the guy anyway?

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    From what I can gather the disgruntled insurance victim was wearing some of the most generic high end clothing for the new york area. There are so many people running around with similar clothing that they are probably just throwing pictures out there looking for a scapegoat they can destroy.

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      Doubt, I hope this guy gets away but I believe all the video clips and photos realaed are definitely the guy who pulled the trigger. The police are good at tracking someone down if a rich person gets hurt or killed

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        They’re not even wearing the same jacket. One is a hoodie and the other is a military style, zip-up jacket. It takes about 10 seconds to identify 10 differences in their clothing.

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          You don’t think it’s possible that someone who seems to have gone into decent effort planning this out didn’t bring two jackets?

          Wearing one jacket most of the time and the other while you actually are doing the crime seems like a good idea to me.

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            Why would he choose two different jackets of similar enough style to catch the attention of anyone reviewing security footage? That type of decision doesn’t seem to be one that would be made by someone as obviously competent as the shooter.

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              That’s a good point but I still don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibilities, I think a lot of things will remain unclear unless he gets caught. Hopefully he never gets caught and this can remain an interesting mystery

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        You overestimate the cops’ competency. They’re mostly fascist dumbfucks who only manage to have a career because they’re willing to beat or evict all the poor people the department tells them too. They don’t solve many cases in general

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    Call every tipline and report the person responsible for this death and many others - That person’s name was Brian Thompson.

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        Everyone’s finally getting along and you feel the need to come in and go “bUt WhAt aBouT bIdeN?”. Why?

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        You’re getting downvoted but it’s true, let’s also not forget that our current moderate Democrats, like the Republicans, like our current healthcare system.

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          I’m not deleting my comment because I stand by it 100 percent. Joe bidens running away from giving weapons to israel the same way horror movie protagonist run away from the serial killer and yet people act like he’s trying really hard and doesn’t fully support what’s going on. Liberal delusions will never cease to disgust me.

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            “I got tired of marginally increasing the status quo, so I let orange Hitler take power”

            Also, just fuck off outta here.

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              ‘Well you see here I’m a mature real politik sort of guy so I accept genocide because thats the mature thing to do. Those woke kids just don’t get it because they’re not mature like me.’

              This is not the devastating argument that you think it is.

              • MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee
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                Support Israel = Terrorists die with a lot of civilian casualties mixed in thanks to human shield tactics.

                Don’t support Israel = Jews get exterminated down to the last man because all of the Arabic countries bordering them openly vow to never stop killing until they’re all gone.

                Hmm I wonder why Israel gets support??

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                  Ok dude I’m sick of the “Genocide Joe” sycophants cropping up in unrelated threads all over Lemmy too, but if you’re gonna argue with them, at least try to make some sense.

                  Don’t support Israel = Jews get exterminated down to the last man because all of the Arabic countries bordering them openly vow to never stop killing until they’re all gone.

                  Do uh… Do you think every single Jew in existence lives in Israel?

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                  Don’t support Israel = Jews get exterminated down to the last man because all of the Arabic countries bordering them openly vow to never stop killing until they’re all gone.

                  In light what Israel has done, nobody will care when it happens… and some people will react similarly to how working class has reacted about this “CEO” being denied a claim to life lol

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    If he gets caught, he should slow roll the trial as looooooong as he can…

    … And run for President in 2028 🇺🇸

    Felonies and civility don’t matter anymore… clearly. He has a platfom I’d like to hear more of.

    Seems to have a face that would look good on a campaign poster.

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      By being a felon he’s already prequalified to be president. The problem is I don’t think he’s old enough yet, even in 2028.

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        Their laws are worth less than the paper they’re written on. Fuck em. He’s old enough if he gets enough votes. We’re already letting millions of mentally ill fascists elect criminally corrupt sociopaths.

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          Oh totally in agreement. But if we pretend for a moment that the law matters (it doesn’t) I don’t think this guy will be 35 in 2028.

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            This likely isn’t even the guy as others have been pointing out.

            Too many clothing mismatches, backpack straps, pockets, different from the shooting site.

            The NYPD just needs to arrest… Someone.

            A low level owner was targeted and killed by a peasant in one of their centers of power, New York City. That isn’t allowed to stand.

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    Sorry, I just don’t think it’s him, different backback straps and pockets where there weren’t any before, this is turning into another Boston bomber misidentification. But this time it’s the NYPD instead of reddit making the mistake

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        There’s always unknown consequences.

        I keep having to go back to the French Revolution- eventually they were executing hundreds of people per day. I’m sure all of them were guilty and deserved Capital Punishment.

        Even Robespierre was executed, and the whole thing blamed on him, though he was adamantly against these executions.

        We’ll never know what would’ve become of France if a different approach had been taken rather than just start lopping off heads.

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          France seems pretty chill today, actually. Relaxed people that aren’t afraid to unify and protest when they feel the government isn’t on their side.

          The appeal of Le Pen to them is worrisome but humanity as a whole seems susceptible to right-wing populism, unfortunately.

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      Society is deteriorating this is what it looks like…

      When CEO cheers at his pay check after denying claims of sick people WHO PAID FOR THIS SERVICE, do you ever find yourself saying:

      Yes, killing a man in cold blood by gunning him down in the street. What a joyous occasion.

      Now think about it… why not?

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        It’s not a good place for society to be, I quite agree. Yet here we are.

        There are probably ways we could change things so that vigilantes gunning down health insurance CEOs isn’t considered a reasonable option.

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          We would need a lot more philanthropic billionaires for that to happen.

          Actually the more I think of those two words together the more it seems like an oxymoron.

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            And so, as I said, here we are. In a place where vigilantes gunning down health insurance CEOs is considered reasonable.

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      Well, you see, the blood was warm when it was spilled. Unfortunately, because the customer was in the 3rd tier SuperSavings Freedom Unlimited* HSA Semi-Preferred SelectChoice Healthcare plan, all claims require a 24-hour waiting period after symptoms erupt to allow rebuttal from the primary physician. The blood was only cold after the grace period elapsed.

      *Limited

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      It is for every person denied healthcare by UHC, and to a smaller extent anyone who’s ever dealt with an insurance company in general

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        This comment needs to be higher and with more upvotes.

        I’ve heard this rumor already but haven’t seen a source on it. Thank you

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          So we’ve established that there are some people you’d be happy to see gunned down, we’re now just quibbling over who qualifies.

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            “I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure”

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            I wasn’t being serious. Someone like Putin should be in jail.

            I don’t support the death penalty.

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              Indeed, having some disconnected powerful authority figure handing out decisions on who should live and who should die is a pretty repulsive concept.

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              I applaud your moral high ground stance, but it’s worth saying there’s no court that can punish a man like that. They are above the law.

              What’s your idealist’s heart say about what to do about people like that when the system that’s supposed to protect us from them is completely and utterly broken?

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          Tomato / toh-mah-toe.

          They are both bad people who got to where they’re at by exploiting people in one way or the other.

          Aside of their nationality, how would you consider them different?

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    How many of You have already set this up as their profile picture on social media?